[ Which is fair. Cain is interested but he can tell that pushing right now just won't fly, and he knows better than to try. Even if he acts like he doesn't sometimes. ]

It's fine that you don't want to talk about it. We tangented anyway. I'd be interested someday, though, that sounds like something I'm never going to get to figure out otherwise.

Where were we? I mean, if you have questions for me, I guess, that's fine, too. Kind of one-sided otherwise.