text: ANONYMOUS

[imperceptus]

do you suppose it is ever truly possible to escape the circumstances of your birth?
to escape destiny?

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anonymous | text

[franciscoramon]

yes
fuck destiny
you're in charge of the person you become

[imperceptus]

truly? is it really so easily said and done?

[franciscoramon]

i never said anything about easy.

i should've been clearer: i don't think you can erase your past or the things that made you into the person that you are.
i have no idea what kind of circumstances you're talking about, but there's no changing them.
and if they sucked (which i'm guessing they did since happy privileged people don't ask those kinds of questions in my experience) that can change the options available to you. i get that.

it's just that i don't believe in destiny
this idea that there's just one path for everybody that's already been cosmically decided and nothing you decide can change that.
i can't. i mean how could anybody believe in something like that and keep living?

[imperceptus]

it's not so much that they sucked

[ Though they did. ]

it's more ... let's say you grew up being taught that the world around you was one shape, and then you learned later that maybe what you were taught was wrong

and even after you know, definitively, that you were taught wrongly

you can't shake that original definition

it starts to feel like maybe you're not capable of thinking right at all

[ Which strikes a little bit at the destiny concern, though his worry there is partly figurative, partly practical. ]

[franciscoramon]

i think i see what you're getting at
it's hard unlearning the bogus shit you were taught growing up
i know bc i definitely struggle with it sometimes

i think the fact you're feeling troubled by it proves you ARE capable
it's ok if it's hard
and it's ok to slip up every now and then
that doesn't make you a bad person
or mean you're doomed to stay the same forever.

[imperceptus]

awfully optimistic words for a stranger

you don't know what sort of wickedness i'm talking about here, after all

[ But really, even knowing him so briefly, it's as much as he expects from someone so earnest as Cisco. ]

[franciscoramon]

you're right: i don't know you or your situation
and maybe it is totally optimistic and naive

but in my experience, the worst people don't question themselves
and they don't don't ask for input
they just do what they want and take what they want and then justify it later
with a lot of mumbo jumbo about having no other options

that's one of the reasons i don't believe in fate
cuz it's the kind of bullshit concept that creeps use to move blame off themselves
and make it sound like every awful thing they do was inevitable

[imperceptus]

solid points, solid points

in my case the matter of destiny is less about what i'll do

and more about what will be done to me

but it's the kind of justification i can see him using

[ whoever that might be. ]

[franciscoramon]

like what?
might as well get it off your chest if you want to
we're all anon here anyway

and obviously i don't know who you mean but
if he's anything like the person i knew who used to say stuff like that to me
he's a real grade-a douchebag and someone to avoid at all costs

[imperceptus]

yeah i really don't want to, though

you're certainly right on that point. i would love to avoid him for literally ever

but i can't.

[franciscoramon]

fair enough

sounds complicated and fucked up
probably another thing you don't wanna talk about, right?
just taking a guess

well i hope something'll change in the future to solve that
you shouldn't have to be around somebody like that

[imperceptus]

it is absolutely both of those things

thanks for the kind words

good of you to take the time.

[ not that he's surprised. ]